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Message #12318Re: Ownership of ancient knowledge???

Dear Everyone, Sat Nam!

Whether we know it consciously or not, we probably all live in this question, which is answered over time as we practice and teach the technology.

The teachings offered to us by Yogi Bhajan are a million faceted diamond. Different facets get the attention of different people.

I will share some of the facets that shine into my consciousness.

1. I observed that Yogiji held the space of love while he was teaching. Simply being in his presence was transformational. For me this is one of the most important 'as taught by Yogi Bhajan' principles. I work daily on cultivating this quality as a teacher. And this is a most important focus in my teacher training courses.

2. I also observed that Yogiji did the various kriyas, meditations, etc. to get an effect, to create a shift in the energy and to produce an expansion or awakening of consciousness. Since he was a master at monitoring and participating in creating shifts in our energy, he saw when to complete an exercise. He gave us times to guide us in the process of creating transformation. But the principle of monitoring shifting energies still holds. For example, when I do a meditation, I don't automatically stop when the timer goes off. If I haven't yet gotten to the feeling that wish to attain I continue until I 'feel it.'

3. We can only cultivate our personal experience and find answers to our questions by actually practicing the technology. I remember one of many classes where we had to move our arms up and down in front of our body. It was exhausting and everyone wanted to quit. He told us "Do it now or next lifetime. I can't do it for you. You have to do the work yourself."

There were so many things that Yogi Bhajan taught that seemed like great ideas. After decades of daily practice, the understanding of what he was saying continues to awaken and deepen in my consciousness. Yogiji offered thousands of students personal touchstones to live by. I will share one of mine. The first question I ever asked Yogiji was "How do you experience God?" He gruffly replied, "Relax and feel it. That is what I did." I am still working on that one. And honestly, there was a period of time that I forgot the question and the answer. But it reappeared to continue to teach me.

Live in this question (and in whatever question you wish to ask,) and enjoy discovering the answers. Remember to deeply listen.

Many blessings, Guru Rattana Guru Rattana's Bio on this site

 

Dear Guru Rattana,

What you say here, by my experience is True, True, True!

I particularly enjoy Yogi Bahajan"s quote of how to experience God--"Relax and feel It!"

Thanks! Lots of Love,

Siri-Gian Kaur Soul Answer

 

Message #12319 Re: Ownership of ancient knowledge???

It seems that the question is a bit in the direction of "why YB thought that he was "aware enough" to modify the technology." Here is a website that has a synthesis of what Yogi Bhajan taught, from the core perspective of "One Star Spirituality" of Advaita Kundalini-yoga. luthar.com/kundalini-yoga and this page Sitemap of Pieter's Articles on Non-duality by Pieter.

You get this one thing and everything else will be added to you. You understand and experience this one Teaching and the understanding of all the volumes of Teachings Yogi Bhajan brought forth will emerge from you like spokes from the hub of a wheel.

If you read some of the articles and talks Yogi Bhajan gave, he states that in a short period one can have the Mastery, the experience of " Pradupati / Crystallization," wherein you've achieved the goal of yoga, which is the "Isolation of the Seer," the abiding in the Self, the " I Am That I Am" the pulsing of the " I as I" without a me, mine, this or that associated, the Substratum But it requires proper practice.

With proper understanding of how to practice and then adhering to that practice within a short period of time body's nadis begin to radiate (this is a practical experience that emerges with proper practice), and as the amperes of voltage increase - like a light bulb, where the voltage is increased and the light-bulb goes from being dull, then a speck of light on the filament, then light filling the bulb, then filling and lighting the area around it - with practice, the sense of identity begins to shift from the clinging and gripping focus of " I am the body, its emotions, its thoughts, its relations to an external world" to " I am a field of self radiant consciousness." Your whole body radiates and with your eyes open or closed, you experience the radiance through the body and within a field around you (the Radiant Body).

As this field becomes brighter and more pervasive and penetrative, it begins to outshine the body and thought emotion images of the mind, and a sense of goodness, virtue and purity pervade through the light, a sense of being engulfed by grace, where the idea of separateness begins to lose meaning. Then suddenly something new happens. With the mind becoming pure and clear, it suddenly reflects the source of the light, and you become aware of yourself as single all pervasive being. The Experience of " I am Consciousness Itself." Uncaused, unconditioned, timeless, space-like Being. And yet, you go around all your previous activities, only now with a force of creation pouring through you, a you that has dissolved into pervasiveness of an " I as I" which no longer sees differences, has a clarity and depth to judge, but has relinquished judgment.

As a result, you awaken to who Yogi Bhajan is. Now you have started the Path, the Way, and as these experiences deepen, there arises a force of Knowledge, an intuitive clarity regarding Yogi Bhajan and what he taught. It's a bit like starting up a mountain path, and at every fork in the road, or obstacle, there appears Yogi Bhajan with the Teachings, which direct you further.

When you read through the articles in the website, and you practice the basics (using KRI sets), you begin to understand the uniqueness of the Path of Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan, and also why proper practice adhering to the Teachings creates a sort of " harmonic resonance," where the convergence of different aspects of the Teachings brings you quite immediately to the experience he said is at hand, simultaneously imminent and immanent.

This is an experience that once you have it, the abiding in and as your True Self, as single pervasive Being, it can't be lost. A sudden Grounding from which and within which Knowledge, intuition and understanding continue to deepen. Part of that Knowledge (Gyan-akal) is the understanding of the harmonic resonance that is inherent in the way that the Teachings (as taught by Yogi Bhajan) are practiced, versus a incongruity and fuzziness of experience when proper practice isn't adhered to.

Maybe it's better said, "Kundalini Yoga, as brought forth by Yogi Bhajan" as he never claimed to be the author or inventor of the Teachings. He just said here are the Teachings, practice in this way and you will have this harmonic resonance, this electric radiance, and abide as Sat Nam, the True Man, True Woman.

Maybe it might be better that rather than question if the teachings can be taught some other way, etc., to first practice them as taught, learn and understand the proper practice and adhere to that, i.e., " Keep Up" and see what happens. In fact when you read what Yogi Bhajan is saying, he's just saying that: to Try it, get into it, do it, and see what happens, before going off to say that maybe practice can be put together differently. Then once you have this Pradupati, this Crystallization, this abiding in your single all pervasive Self essence, as the substratum, the Tao / Way Itself, then you can consider if there should be some different approach, Way, etc.

You'l be surprised. With practice comes That experience, and it is suddenly there. But you need to practice in a way that you not only practice, but you try to figure out consider and understand what the practice is. Yogi Bhajan never said to just practice blindly, but to practice with a sense of Consideration, which is also how he said he practiced. To know and understand what the Teachings are, how and why they work, with you as the ginnie pig or the experiment. It's a Science of the Soul. To get at what this sense of single all pervasive Being is. You read the scripture of the different religions to try to figure it out. The yoga practice, postures, breathing, movement, shabad resonance, cause the body and mind to radiate, and with that radiance combined with inquisitiveness into who and what you are, comes hearing and remembrance, like coming out of a fog or an amnesia. Suddenly, you are awake!

But this awareness, this Singularity is like a graviton drawing the mind inward, as though an inexorable force of inquiry and abidance has taken hold, while at the same time, a sun of radiance pours through the atoms of body and tonality of the mind. Before you were experiencing a sort of " my radiance" a sense of identity that you are not just the body and mind, but a field of radiant intuitive consciousness. Then suddenly, as Yogi Bhajan describes, " Impact!" and that field of consciousness is realized to have its source and sense as an identity, in vastness: uncaused, unconditioned, beginningless vastness. Your identity as a candle, suddenly becomes the Sun. And there you are. Here we are.

What does Guru Nanak say? "It's a Treasure which none can imagine." Naturally, we have an affinity and drawing towards it, because we are each an eminence of the Truth, like a bubble on the ocean. But the form of the bubble cannot imagine the ocean, and then it is the ocean, and That's that, like the song of Guru Sing and Seal: "I am that I am, and that's that."

The greatness of these Teachings, however casually, yet inexorable and relentlessly, they were taught in YMCA's and people's homes, parks, mountain settings, can only be realized by starting to practice and figure them out and use the expanding and pervading and penetrating radiance of prana / apana - active and passive, as a way to penetrate into the meaning and experience of remembrance just there in the scriptures of the various religions. Then suddenly, it hits you like a flash and you say "I got It" - and that's it. It can't and won't leave you. You know who and what you are.

If you have the situation to have practiced various yogas, hatha yoga, raja yoga, this and that yoga, and then you come upon the Kundalini Yoga that Yogi Bhajan, as a result of his own experience could reveal, and you practice, you'll just say " WOW!" What a real science, a real technology of the body mind and soul. Not something vague, mysterious, secret, " mystical" etc. Very straight forward. Practical. You do this and THAT happens. That's what Yogi Bhajan was saying so many times.

Just an aside. Many of these sets and Kriyas are said to bring about certain experiences. And if you practiced the set with Yogi Bhajan there, the experience he would tell you about would happen. But some practice and they don't get the experience, and so they say that the mentioned experience was just a kind of hype. But if you practice properly all these experiences happen.

So before thinking of working out some other way to teach Kundalini Yoga, as laid out by Yogi Bhajan, just try what he was teaching, figure it out, and see what happens. There's a harmonic resonance. Suddenly, the seeming diversity all comes together. Your own expanding and deepening radiance causes a disengagement of identity to emotionally charged thoughts and images. Then, suddenly, inertia disappears altogether.

We live an existence in which we always feel a sense of clinging and attachment, of grasping and holding to thoughts sensations, etc. Even the emergence of one's awareness of one's self as a field of radiant consciousness is an identity we hold. But suddenly something we could only conjecture about happens, a remembrance, and with THAT the inertia, the holding, clinging, attachment, is gone.

Ek Ongkar, Sat Nam. That's THAT.

Hope this helps. Pieter

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